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Cast swarms with virgins keep pouring out of one hive — catch and combine, or let it play out?

Perthshire, 7 years. One colony beat me to it this spring — prime swarm left around June 10 (caught it, it's fine), but the parent hive is now throwing cast after cast. Three so far: a decent football-size one on the 19th, then two progressively sadder ones, the last barely a grapefruit. Each with a virgin aboard presumably. The parent must be getting seriously depleted. Options as I see them: (a) hive the casts separately and let each virgin get mated — but the small ones probably lack the mass to build up before our season ends, (b) catch them, find and pinch the virgins, and newspaper-combine the lot back onto the parent or the prime, (c) go into the parent and knock down every remaining cell bar one to stop the bleeding, plus combine the casts. Leaning (c) but curious how others handle a hive in full cast cascade. It's a good genetics colony otherwise, which is presumably why it's so swarmy... ha.
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MieleMarco · Jun 27, 2026
(c), and do it today — every day you wait costs another cast. Shake or check every frame, leave the single best capped cell (big, textured, centre of comb), destroy the rest including the little emergency-looking ones on the faces. That stops the cascade almost every time. The casts: combine the grapefruit ones, they are not viable alone in Scotland's season. The football one you can give a chance on its own if you can feed it.
SkaneBees · Jun 27, 2026
Agree with one cell left, but finding every virgin in three casts to pinch is miserable work — they run, they hide, they fly. Easier: hive each cast on its own for 24-48 h, then combine the weak ones to each other rather than back to the parent, and let the best virgin of that pair win. You end the season with parent + prime + one cast-built nuc, which up here is a decent outcome from a swarmy hive.
PerthshireBees · Jun 28, 2026
Went with the hybrid: parent stripped to one good cell this morning (found and binned six more, no wonder it kept casting), grapefruits newspapered together and left to sort their own queen out, football cast hived and fed. If the swarmy genetics show up again next spring I'll graft from calmer stock and requeen the lot.
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