BuckfastLinda · Flanders, BE · Pests & Disease · Aug 22, 2026
Second Apiguard tray goes in tomorrow — queen's gone off lay, is that expected mid-treatment?
Six seasons in Flanders and first time using Apiguard (formic every other year until now, fancied a change while temps suit thymol). First tray went on two weeks ago, second tray due tomorrow per the label.
Did a quick peek while topping up feed and my best queen appears to be completely off lay — plenty of emerging brood but no eggs and only a small patch of larvae. The whole colony also smells like a cough-sweet factory and they've moved stores around oddly, gap in the middle of the brood nest.
Before I panic: is going off lay a known thymol side-effect? Do I still put tray two in on schedule, or give her a break? And the accidental brood break this causes — I've heard people say it actually helps the treatment work better since mites can't hide in capped cells. True, or wishful thinking from people whose queens stopped laying?
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DrentseBij · Aug 22, 2026
All completely expected — you've just met thymol's personality. Off-lay or sharply reduced laying is one of its best documented side-effects, along with the smell, the rearranged stores, and sometimes a bit of bearding. She'll resume within a week or two of the second tray finishing. And yes, tray two goes in on schedule tomorrow — the 10-14 day interval exists to catch mites emerging from brood that was capped during tray one, skipping or delaying it is how people end up with mediocre results and blame the product. Nine years in Drenthe, thymol most years, queens always came back on lay.
KentishBee · Aug 22, 2026
Can confirm the off-lay from the other side of the Channel — mine did the same during my treatment (see my recheck thread from Monday for how the rest of it went, though my problem was cold weather, which yours clearly isn't given the cough-sweet smell means it's evaporating well). The brood break helping is real, not cope: fewer capped cells means more mites exposed and rideable-on when the thymol is working. Your strong smell is actually a good omen my hives didn't get.
BuckfastLinda · Aug 23, 2026
Reassuring, thank you both. Tray two went in this morning as scheduled. KentishBee I read your thread — sounds like my sweaty August is your treatment's dream weather, so fingers crossed my recheck wash tells a happier story than yours. Will report numbers in a few weeks.