BuckfastLinda · Flanders, BE · Queens · Oct 15, 2026
Buckfast vs local mongrels after four winters — my October decision on which queens get replaced next spring
Flanders, six years, fourteen colonies, and for four of them I've deliberately run a mix: six with bought Buckfast queens and the rest headed by queens raised from whatever my own colonies produced, mated locally with the local drone population.
The Buckfast colonies are calmer to work, build up fast in spring and produce more honey in a good year. They also eat more feed getting to winter weight and two of them were the first to look miserable in the wet February we had. The local mongrels are less predictable — one was genuinely unpleasant and got requeened — but as a group they overwinter on less, they shut down brood earlier in autumn, and their daughters don't fall apart the way F2 Buckfast crosses do.
The F2 point is the one I'd emphasise for anyone choosing. A bought queen is a known quantity; her daughters mated with my local drones are a lottery, and two of mine were the worst-tempered colonies I've owned.
So my October decision is: replace the two poorest local queens next spring from my best local colony, keep the two best Buckfasts, and stop making F2s.
#buckfast#local-bees#requeening#genetics
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ImkerinLena · Oct 15, 2026
Bavaria, twenty years with Carnica. Your F2 observation is the single most important thing in this post and it's why so many beginners conclude that "bought queens are great and home-raised queens are awful" — they are comparing a selected queen with an unselected cross. Raising from your own best, in an area where the drone population is reasonable, is a slower but compounding improvement.
AlpineCarnica · Oct 16, 2026
Tyrol. Agreed, and the feed consumption point deserves more attention than it gets. Over eighteen years the colonies I keep are the frugal ones that winter small and explode in spring, not the ones that make the biggest July crop. BuckfastLinda, do you find the local stock swarmier, or is that a myth in your area?
BuckfastLinda · Oct 16, 2026
AlpineCarnica — slightly swarmier, yes, but the difference is smaller than the difference between my own two worst and two best local colonies. Within-group variation swamps the between-group difference, which is basically an argument for selecting rather than for buying.
PerthshireBees · Oct 16, 2026
Perthshire. Reading this as someone who has gone almost all local by accident — mating is unreliable here so bought queens get superseded and I end up with local crosses anyway. Four years in, my losses are lower than when I bought queens every spring. Regional caveat applies, obviously.